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those troops in the crimea, because they fear in russia for safety of the russian people on the peninsula. >> is this a provocation of war? >> potentially this could be very dangers if this sends ukraine into a civil war. russian troops on the pennin pennines -- peninsula, there's concern about ethnic russian groups in the crimea, many holding a duel nationality. the russians are looking for ways to get involved in crimea. the ukrainians in the west do not want to sow that happen. >> al jazeera phil ittner live. thank you for being was this morning. >> president obama says he's deeply concerned by the situation. on friday he warned there would be costs for military
intervention. the u.s. officials say washington is consulting with its allies. those are the headlines. "consider this" is coming up next. in the meantime follow us online at or on twitter. don't go anywhere, see you again at 11:00am eastern. blow? >> does it always deserve to be bad mouthed. lawless borders? patrols may not be going by the book. the oscars are here and why haven't the viewers seen the nominees? welcome to "consider this."
here's more on what's ahead. >> chaos in ukraine, russia is accused of sending forces into the area. >> we are deeply concerned about the movements of the russian federation. >> a group smuggles a camera and should the courts allow cameras in the courts all of the time? >> the red carpet is out and the count down is on. >> i can't recall a closer best picture race in decades. >> and the os core goes to... >> we begin with the cry i didn't say and reports of russian intervention in ukraine and the ukrainian leaders are
accusing russians for sending in forces. the men wouldn't answer questions and the military uniforms without identifying marks and the flights in and out of the region are cancelled and the air space the closed. russia denied it moved forces into ukraine and insisting it is not violating the sovereignty and the fleet are for security and permitted. meanwhile viktor yanukovich held a press conference in russia and blaming the fall from the regime on a coup. the president spoke to russia and they are going to hon tor
the sovereignty but the united states is deeply concerned about the russian movements in eukra e ukraine. >> the united states is standing with the international community confirming that are will be costs. >> we are going to kiev and nick schifrin and welcome to the show. russia is trying to provoke a military conflict and convened a meeting of the national security and defense council on friday night, what's the latest? is>> the latest they are still meeting and trying to decide what to do. to give a perspective here the recent operation or the training mission as putin put it that the russian military is going on the
ukraine an board has 130,000 troops. and the entire troops are 150 troops and that is why they are worried about what russia is doing. this government is 28, 29 hours old and the u.s. is desperate to face the challenges, political, economic that ukraine has but they are focussed on the south and crimea and the rhetoric is aggressive and the military can into the buildings and they are warning that the ukrainian military can go in and remove the troops. the ewe kranians are thinking
they are russians. they haven't proven they are willing to back up the words with any military action there. they don't have a lot of options there and obama is coming out strong and secretary kerry coming out strong and it is unclear what the ukrainian government can do other than pass resolutions and release the statements about the movements. >> the government buildings are in the control of those men. what is the response from regular people in kiev that you have spoken to? >> they are deeply concerned. i talked to the people and how they feel about crimea. but the people here do believe
that the government needs to defend crimea, but they are not identifying with them because they east to russia and the people here looking to the west to europe and they are part of the ukraine and the government has to defend the sovereignty and the territory and talking about putin this or that and not nice comments that the people are saying here, but they want to see the government stand up for itself and see the government actually say look we have to draw the line in the sand and that is what the they asked the former president, asking viktor yanukovich is stop looking to russia and look to europe and that is when he crossed the line. there is a sense here that they are watching, the people here are watching the government closely and it is unclear what they can do and a lot of people
are hoping that this d deescalate before getting worse. >> nick, thank you for joining us tonight. >> for now on the situation ukraine and russia's involvement in the crisis, i'm joined awilliam courtney, ambassador. also, joining us assistant professor of political science from baylor university. he wrote a book with former secretary of state rice. ambassad ambassador, what is russia trying to do? >> russia is testing the new government in kiev. i don't think russia wants to inprovide but they are dispatching troops in crimea.
russia lost east ukraine. so russia is in a defensive posture in some respects and pushing and testing the kiev government just the way it did the georgian government in august 2008 before russia invaded georgia. >> you are from western eukrain and what do you think that the russians are doing? >> you have to rep the political situation, ukraine is one of the weakest moments in history. the country is essentially bankrupt. the government, the ex-president left, russia refused to
recognize him as a leader. is a lot of reshuffling at the top in the armed forces and just recently, yesterday, the new leader, the new prime minister elected in crimea and the leader of the russian unity block and pro-russian political force and holding a rev referendum in may and what we could be seeing and this is a military inseeing and we are seeing the force. >> sir, there are reports that the troops are not just at the airports but moving to the northern ukraine and are they positioning to cut the peninsula off? >> that is possible as well. but we have to remember that
ukraine and formed forces have a number of bases in ukraine. there is a coastal guard. there are at least 40 tanks belonging to the ukrainian armed forces and even if they close it out or block the access from the air they have to deal with the ukraine armed forces there in crimea. >> president obama warned the leaders that will would be costs, but isn't that a fuzzy threat and what does that mean to putin? >> it is meant not to be too specific, rather some of the costs would depend on how bad the russians actions for. for example, if russian troops make an out and out effort to seize control we would see
u.s. sanctions and european sanctions against russia and russia's leadership, perhaps freezing of assets. if on the other hand an it is low level testing and that is where we are now, and the troops don'ted have the russian insignia on them, and so it is looking like moscow is trying to hedge a bet there. >> what you said worries me, and the sanctions against the russian leadership is making you feel like the cold war is back. >> president putin moved russia in a back ward direction and more and more authority and dick toirl arrangement. in 2008, with invasion of georgia, if they perceive that the neighbor is weak and strategic area on the eastern black seacoast, russia may try to do something here.
but i think mostly it is through bluster and intimidation, but not out and out invasion. >> president obama is saying that the violations of the sovereignty could destabilize the country and not in anyone's interest, but couldn't it be russia's interest? >> well, there are certainly reasons strategic reasons why russia may be interested in taking control over crimea, one of the issues is the black sea fleet. the lease is extended by the previous president, president viktor yanukovich for another 25 years and that is something that the new government is not recognizing and they want to end the lease in 2017 and make russia withdraw is black sea fleet.
second issue is the issue of the nato member. the status could be reversed by the new authorities and restart the negotiations on the membership action plan for nato and if russia creates a new state and claim stature it is harder for ukraine to be a member of nato and those could be the two strategic efforts. >> anything that the u.s. can do to calm this down? >> well, what i think that president obama has done today is a very strong statement and unscheduled press conference, that is quite unusual. the chancellor in germany is forceful as well. i think that the main message is avoid provocations and the
ukrainian government shouldn't do what georgia government did and respond with force of its own. russia would like that. whieth now it is black and white and clearly russian aggression. >> certainly the rhetoric is ramped on both of the sides. senator mccain accused of empire building by putin. it is a pleasure having you both on the show. >> thank you. >> turning from the ukraine to the world's youngest country south sudan and what is going on there is horrific. carlos with doctors without borders says i can find no words to describe the
brutality. war crimes are being committed. colonel a peace keeper said there is no humanity here. and in the words of the u.n.'s there's nothing there but dead bodies. the fighting left it all by di serted with hundreds of stores and building burned to the ground and the corpse are left in the streets. fighting broke out in south sudan last december by the forces loyal to the president. and while cease fire was demanded but a clear pattern of killings based on et nicety
continues. u.s. senior adviser joins us and eric, a smith college professor and author. it is good for you to be with us. eric, what are you hearing what is going on in south sudan? >> we have similar reports from bore and others, and what we have to worry is about what human rights watch said is occurring, it is reprizal. what this is doing is displacing people. there are fewer than one
million people displaced. how are we going to get it is to them and provide safe haven and doing that before the rainy season in may. >> this country has oil and 90% of the people survive on less than a dollar a day. a cease fire was declared in january and why isn't that helping? >> it was a fragile decision from the very beginning. it is unclear that the forces are under unified command and no political process laid out that would lead the leaders to stop the fighting over territories and strategic locations and more needs to be done just to start the peace process and the group dealing with this has to step up backed by the u.n., backed by
the african union. >> eric, isn't that part of the the point, this country is incredibly divided and all sorts of fighting. there is one tribe with a million people and all sorts of tribes and 60 languages where the country and how do you unify a place like that? >> well, the fighting has a precedent in the years between 2005 and this past december 15th. there's certainly built up political anger and in many cases well justified and the governance issues have to come to the forefront and those detained are pushing for that. the former vice president is not really representative i don't believe of the
opposition in sudan and the sooner we stop talking about rebels level to the president and saying there is epic dimension to this and political dimension and powerful opposition to the president. >> ambassador, is oil part of the issue here? it has substantial reserves of oil. a lot of violence in the oil rich areas and the oil production is crashed and that means a poor country the getting poorer. >> it is not the source of the conflict. it broke out over the political problems and running the country. but the control of the oil area becomes a strategic objective for each side. south sudan 98% of the budget
comes from oil. so by those opposed taking over and destroying the source of oil also destroys the source of income. so now it is becoming a matter of concern, it is not at the root of the problem. >> eric, what has to be done? u.n. is there on the ground and human rights groups are there and doctors without borders and people trying to help out are attacked and what can the international community do? >> well, the u.n. authorized mixes in sudan. it is deploying at a terrifying slow pace. unless we increase the amount of secure area that civilians can retreat to and receive aid in we are going to have a
disaster in the rainy season. we need more boots on the grounds, more logistics and transport and better communication. they are not supplying the security that is essential for the displaced people. >> ambassador, you wrote in january is report for the united states institute of peace you said that the crisis and opportunity to put south sudan back on the path of good government and peace, how can that be done, does the u.s. need to play a role? >> u.s. has to play a role and the u.n. and the europeans to get that started. unless you get at those fundamental problems on how the country the governed you are not going to stop this conflict and that takes a
strong demand from the international community and that such a process is underway and independent awe piss and not under the control of their president and taking at least two years to do and you have to have a combination of reenforced security and a demand for a political process and the africans can't do that alone, they need the backing of the u.s. and the british and others and a very strong backing from the u.n. security council. >> because it is a growing humanitarian crisis that could be getting horribly worse. thank you both for joining us tonight. >> coming up, outburst caught on a hidden camera and raising the questions of cameras in the supreme court. >> during black history month we hear about martin luther
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>> unless you're one of the lucky americans who has gotten a >> unless you are one of the lucky americans and getting a seat in the u.s. supreme court you don't see what the proceedings are like, until today, someone sneaking a video camera in the courtroom and posted the footage to
youtube. should america's highest court join us in the 21st century or rooted in the past. we are joined by a professor of law in chicago and he had the job of clerking for supreme court justice william brennan and nice to see you and you are the perfect person to talk about this. some of the courtrooms allow the cam cameras in the courtrooms. o there is a disagreement between the courts and the judges whether it is productive. what bringing cameras into a proceeding like this can do the distorte the way that people behaves. i have had this when testifying before the congressional committee that
is a closed proceeding and no cameras and the senators and congressman behave in a thought way and when the cameras are on they posture and play to the constituents. so i think it is important to understand when you bring the hearings into a serious procedure that is not good. >> we saw the extremes of that in the oj simpson case and anna nicole snit things in florida, but the really p reality the head of the chief justice in ohio and she's said she's had no problems at all with grand standing there and they have all televised. >> i suspect few people are interested in the supreme court proceedings in the state of ohio. >> and just two glimpses of
the supreme court and back to the 30s and a couple of black and white still pictures, don't we want to learn more? this is so important of what is going on there. >> the justices write opinions and explaining everything they are doing. that is transparent and there are the audio recordings and you can listen to them. i rather guess very people do, the truth is they are not available in terms of the substance for the ordinary person. they are complex and technical and precedence and not discussions between ordinary people and most people that turn them would turn them off quickly. the other factor, the justices themselves are concerned that the media are not necessarily
even handed and neutral and responsible in the way they would deal with the material and they would look for the material and the awkwardness and embarrassment. they appear on dignity and independence to exercise authority. the sense of the inma si that the cameras would bring endangers the capacity of the courts as not seen as part of the political process, because they are not part of the political process. >> one of the big issues is they would be made fun of and so on. >> i would be in favor of the justices trying it for an
experiment and allowing an oral argument to be broadcast and see how that goes. that is what they did with the oral recording and that works okay and now allowing all of the oral arguments to be recorded. i am in favor of them trying this experiment and seeing how that work and should it be allowed. >> it is easier to follow if we watched them. we'll look at an ad for court transparency. >> impacting the lives of americans everywhere and only a privileged few see the justices in action. we support a simple fix, putting cameras in the supreme court. >> the polls show that most americans think that the cameras should be in there.
do you think that will change? >> i think gradually they'll move in that direction. what they are doing there is serious business and they don't want to see that distorted in a way that undermines the ability to do their jobs well and the capacity of the supreme court to act effectively. >> i would watch if they put them on. i hope that happens. >> and you would turn it off after ten minutes. >> well, maybe not, i am a lawyer as you are. >> thank you. >> turning to the southern frontier, the patrol officers taking the law into their on hands? they found the agents may be
using excessive force by shooting. the report recommends that the agency ban those tactics and criticizing the poor recordkeeping and the agency discarded the report's findings and refused to change the policies. we are bringing the co-chair of the southern border coalition and alliance san diego. does this report match what you have heard from the communities along the border and the abuses by the border patrol officers.>> yes we do. we have been tracking the abuses and 28 people have been killed by border patrol, many of them without justification. >> the arizona republic says over 200 people killed. what kind of abuses are the
ones that you are seeing? >> well, we are tracking the most agree gous, the killing and the serious harm and unfortunately they are happening not only to migrants and u.s. citizens, of the 28, one third are u.s. citizens. >> o what are is circumstances? >> well, for example, here where i live in san diego, u.s. citizen mother of five was in an area not far from where i live and visiting a friend, a border agent was in the area serving a warrant and he asked her to stop and she was in a vehicle and asked her to stop and she did not recognize him, he was in plain clothes and she attempted to drive away and she was not a person of interest for him and
he jumped in front of her car and shot her nine times dead. leaving behind five u.s. citizen children. >> on the other hand the agency argues that the job that this border patrol is doing the very dangerous and working in remote areas and no back up and if not able to shot that puts the agents at risk, don't they have a point? >> border patrol is a law enforcement agency, it is not a branch of the military. that is echoed by the secretary of the homeland security in the public address two weeks. so as a law enforcement agency it needs to conform to the practices of any police
department. >> that is one of the criticisms of the agency, they have rules and policies that are different from most of the police forces, in fact, it said it is not releasing the names of the officers involved in the shootings and lacks public oversight and little recordkeeping and despite the criticism, the anth si rejected the recommendations and not going to follow the recommendations and tried to keep the report from going public. >> this is right, it is a policing expert agency and they conducted the audit and revered as the expects on policing. the agency recommended to the border control that they don't entirely complete the
shooting, but limit the shoots to where the agents are in threat of harm or death. now that is standard policing practice and what the border patrol is saying they are not going to abide by that recommendation and that is reasonable restriction on the use of force. in the policing word you can only use the lethal force when in a threat of harm or death and what they are finding is that the agencies are intentionally putting themselves in front of a vehicle to justify shooting at the vehicle. >> well, people throwing rocks at them over the border fences and in those cases, even though they end shooting into mexico, would those cases qualify thr them to defend themselves? >> again, the recommendation is not they never use lethal
force but restrict it to the situations when they are harmed or threat of death. the findings are indicating that the agencies are shooting at people out of frustration. imagine if a police officer shooted into the public, into a crowd out of frustration, we would crazy. that's just not acceptable behavior. extraordinary power comes with extraordinary responsibility. we demand the same powers that the police have and not above and beyond that. they are not above the law. they have to conform to the law. thank you for joining us to talk about this important topic. thank you. >> time now to see what is trending on the website.
>> as february is coming to a close, we wanted to spotlight those contributing to black history and are not recognized. on twitter we asked you this, it is black history month and who is under celebrated hero? and some of answer are angela davis that reformed the prison system. lindsey parsons. and newton, cofounder of the black panther party. and julia bond. others tweeted about every day people and are making a difference. my colleague at ucla and my father for being there for his
children. thanks to all of you for joining in on the conversation. read more at our website. back to you. >> a couple of suggestions there. >> jen ri fi kags is seen as displacing poor people. a report on the roads and bridges and the next bridge you drive over could be lost past due for repairs. the oscars are here and how much of america saw the nominated films? when we talk about the use that have rhetoric and the crossing of the line, but we could go back to russian in its newell >> breaking news in the crisis in ukraine. putin is asking to use the
russian military in crimea. the troops are arriving to the region since friday and it is trying to protect the pro russian people already there. for the new government in kiev they are calling it an illegal invasion. phil, is this a provocation of war? >> well, we have a lot of fast moving events going on here. as far as a provocation maybe the ukrainians in the west are seeing it that but certainly the russians are seeing it that way. we have heard official text is made available to us, putin is appealing to the upper houses of the russian parliament, the federal council, he said that due to situation in ukraine and threatening the lives, the
personnel of the armed forces of the russian federation should be used in ukraine and then he quotes articles within the russian constitution. we do know that the federation council is about to vote on this here in moscow. there needs to be a clear majority. putin has sent one of his deputy foreign ministers to represent him in the council and if they do vote on this in a positive, they will need to present a statement and then send this back to the president within two days. a lot of legal ease going on and maneuvering within the political sphere in moscow and what it is coming down to the russians say that the instability in crimea and threatening their dual citizens and ethnic russians not the mention of course that sea port is driving this and
they want to make sure that the peninsula remains in control. they are using a lot of legislative language here and things are movering quickly in moscow on this saturday and we'll see how the vote goes any moment really, morgan. >> phil, before you go, you sent us an email and showing that the russian foreign ministry sent out a statement and saying they are within the laws and are they right having the troops there? >> they have agreements with ukraine and it is gray and into the legislative language and the legal ease we have discussed. some people will interpret is laws differently and what we are seeing is clearly putin
trying to find a frame work within the written word and the agreements already signed to find a reason to send troops into crimea. morgan? >> phil, we want to show the viewers a live view of moscow with the parliament is meeting and discussing this right now. we are certainly going to keep your posted. thank you, phil. >> now, now to libby casey from washington, president obama is waking up to a whole new situation and are we hearing reactions from the white house? >> we have not yet. this is just the episode that president obama was hoping to avoid. we are seeing the escalation in president putin's agreement and wanting to use force. getting the authorization is different than sending in the troops.
this could be a tactical move by president putin and the white house was hoping this wouldn't happen. president obama put out a warning there would be costs if russia intervenes militarily. >> we are standing with them and there will be costs if russia intervenes. >> he's sending a warning essentially and the costs can be economical costs. as pointed out, there is a russian presence in crimea. the question is would they actually send in troops and have the troops there activated in a real display of military force and it is an important region for russia. the black sea fleet is there.
president obama is certainly watching this closely as well. we are waiting for the white house to respond later on this morning, morgan. >> you said authorization on putin's part doesn't mean action, so when we talk president obama talking about the costs, give us a sense of the time line, when western europe or president obama would collect on the costs. >> it is dangerous to put out the time lines because they have to follow through. if president obama put a line in the sand, something they have done on other issues, like syria and then crossing that, say president putin crosses that, that would be unnecessary escalation. there are moments ahead, the opportunities for the white house to pull out of summits, to withhold funding and we are watching to see if the white house gives a sense of a time
line today. >> besides pulling out the summits, what are the options that president obama has at this point? >> that is what the white house is grappling with as well as the state department. the economic picture is a forceful weapon they can do without using the military force. the american public has no interest in putting boots on the ground there. we are watching the white house and talking about sanctions, economic issues, that will be the first volly they can send and then watch from there. the u.s. is saying they are not going alone, working with the members of the eu and the and we are watching the white house trying to work not just as a lone country but with partners at this moment. you can bet there are efforts
to get other countries to speak out as well. >> thank you, libby, always a pleasure to have you. >> now the jennifer glasse in crimea where the russian troops would be used. you heard the importance of crimea to the russian military and are you seeing movement there today? >> we have. we have seen troops comes to the parliament here. but they have no insignia and they are the same taking over the airport here and the air space is closed until at least this evening and the same forces moving into the airport an hour down the road we have reports 80 miles east of here, a very, very small ukrainian
marine base, 45, 50 marines are based there, and russian license plates vehicles rolled in there and and more military vehicles are on the road. no russian markings on them yet. we are hearing reports that bases in the west and another wall street base in the east are also surrounded by the forces. so definitely a sense that things are moving forward here. >> jennifer, you mentioned the regaining of control, in the continued tug of war, is this is a significant turning point for the viktor yanukovich supporters? >> yes, he's not the super issue. we do see pro russian supporters making moves, not just heard, we hear the chants russia and russia and they are
encouraged on what they are seeing with the people coming in and they are supported but also the russian military exercises in russia's west on ukraine's border and saying that shows that russia is behind them and they say the majority of the people, 60% of the people here soerassociated with russia and they are looking to kiev and are nervous and they believe that that new government are bandits and fascists and no power here and so we have seen the crimea prime minister take over the police and take over the arm and saying he's protecting the country here. one of the dangers is that kiev is not recognizing him any more and that means a break down with the communications and making things more complicated. >> jennifer, they are looking to kiev nervously and looking
like an antigovernment protesters in kiev had the upper hand. viktor yanukovich on the run. is this showing they can't take the progress for granted and it is not necessarily a win. >> yeah, that is absolutely true, morgan. the new government in kiev has a lot of challenges. the east is looking to russia for industrial reasons and for culture reasons. so too crimea for culture reasons and the black sea fleet, russia has a military interest here. the black fleet an hour from here and 15,000 forces there on their bases and russia wants to protect its interesting, interest in the military and the ethnic russians here. it is a very, very complicated time for a brand new government in kiev and
balancing all of this. things are moving quickly. a brand new prime minister and parliament and new elections and referendums on crimea coming up. >> in fact, jennifer, things are moving so quickly, we are turning to phil with updates, phil, what are you hearing there on the ground? >> here in moscow, we are hearing, they are saying what they are trying to do, trying to avoid in crimea is a repeat of the battle in kiev. they urge on-lookers to remember the hundreds of dead in kiev. that is what they are tried to
avoid in crimea. that is in essence the motivation here if they don't intervene in crimea there is a fear there will be further con flight between the various factions. that just within the last few moments here coming from the russian foreign ministry. >> phil, how are they avoiding the battle of kiev and now calling for force? >> that is absolutely right, it has to be looked at from the various perspectives whether coming from kiev or moscow, everybody is saying what they are trying to avoid the conflict but they are apparently trying to keep order and peace by putting in the forces or apply political pressure or what have you. what we have here clearly is a divide between the perspectives with the east and the west and both saying they
don't want to see an unstable ukraine and saying that the answer for that is taking a strong stand and clearly they are trying to put forward a reason for this potential intervention in crime crimea and what they are trying to avoid the bloodshed by putting in the troops and take that for a face value and whatever behind that motivation we'll have to see. morgan? >> thank you, phil, joining us live from moscow, thanks for being with us. >> now the kiev where nick schifrin is. do you think they are going to move to defend the territories? >> what we are hearing is a lot of parliamentary resolutions and no action.
this government is 48 hours old. they have huge political challenges. they have huge complik economic challenges. this country is just months away from default. to put it mildly they disagree with the russian foreign ministry statements. the people here, in the kradel of the revolution, argues that russia is taking the ukrainian territory. crimea is independent but it is part of ukraine. from the government's perspective from this new government's perspective it needs to defend the territory. it is much too young to do that and the military, the chief of the military just removed 36 hours a go and yes,
the rhetoric subjects that the ukrainian government wants to defend itself militarily if all of the troops are in fact russian troops and there is no evidence that is going to happen and no evidence of that happening and they are turning to the west and asking if the security council help and we are hearing the statements from president obama and calling for a quick press conference at 5:00 p.m. on a friday and making the point that the international community is trying to back this very new government. >> nick, going back to something you said, look, this government is 48 hours old, that my mind boggling and you are getting a sense on the ground in kiev that they are confident that the new government will face the new challenges and is their leadership established enough to file in the ranks and confront the challenges that are unfolding?
is>> it is hard to judge the level of the establishments because the people in independence square installed the government. the night before the government elected, quote unquote, they were paraded in front of the people and giving a thumbs up or thumbs down and they are established among the pro western crowd in kiev and pro western crowd and not for the full country and not confronting this by themselves in crimea. >> we have new information that ukraine's acting president called an american meeting of his chiefs. >> joining professor of political science at fordham university and specializing in eastern europe and the former soviet union. professor, this is now an act of war? >> certainly putin wants to
have a war in ukraine and he's tried to, he hoped it would happen on a number of occasions. the russian government counted on hard that the citizens from the western part of the country would fight the people from the eastern part of the country and that didn't happen. we saw the russian navy and the ukrainian mill taur just observing the situation there and now taking another step to provoke violence. >> now speaking of taking a step, president obama is saying look there are costs if you use the military and what is president obama's next action, quickly. >> certainly in the near future the president should put more pressure through the
diplomatic means on russia and from using the military forces, but in the long term what the united states can do along with western powers, especially with the european union is to strangle the russian economy and -- >> strangle the russian economy? >> yes, if people don't buy their oil, they collapse. >> thank you so much. professor of political science at fordham. stay with al jazeera america throughout the day on the latest on the situation in ukraine. follow us online or twitter at ajam. we have the latest for you on the moving situation. for now i'm morgan radford don't go any where.
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